"off the pigs"

In case anyone wants to see the anarchist point of view on the Yates  building, their views apparently include killing police officers,  "cops are bastards", and "pigs gonna pay".  And since when is wearing masks in public something that is considered benign?

http://anarchistnews.org/node/17958

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This only adds credence to my theory that  the moon is always full over CH and the only thing that suppresses it's effect is cold weather. In fact...it is close to becoming a law.These are the same people that many want treated w/ Kid Gloves.Not only is the moon full but I swear it is permanently fixed at 10 degrees above the eastern horizon resulting in a flood tide as well. cw  Weakness is provocative.
"One of the most noble things you can do is kill the enemy."-Maj. Douglas Zembiec

If we are okay with defaulting toward police action, then we must live with that reflex. If we would like a thoughtful system of communication, then we benefit from that process.

I don't understand what you mean in the Yates context. I would find it hard to communicate with people wearing masks chanting "off the pigs".

And if you find it hard to communicate with people being openly hostile to you, you wouldn't have lasted ten minutes at OccupyChapelHill.  Night watch at OCH was a constant stream of verbal abuse and physical threat most nights. I am five three and female and I found myself surrounded by four guys twice my size with one of them yelling obscenities and the other three trying to shout over him to make their less obscene arguements. That was probably the worse of it, but similiar experiences occurred almost every night. As much as possible, we tried to have people on night watch who we knew could deescalate hostilities.  Whether or not I think "all cops are bastards" is good strategy or good sentiment, I expect people who are employed to keep the peace to be more skilled and show more courage than an amateur night watch.  And I imagine if they were unarmed - as is the case in other countries - and well trained in communication they would. Instead we've chosen to have a militarized police force trained in urban combat. Honestly in some ways I think that makes us all bastards, but then I've always had a problem with paying people to do things that I am not willing to do.

 Yes, there is a SWAT team but it is rarely used. How does that make the entire police force militarized?  

Being kind of militarized is like being kind of pregnant. 

I can't argue with that logic.

Perhaps thoughtful communication would have been more effective had parents utilized it for  instilling a respect for law in their children.  Weakness is provocative.
"One of the most noble things you can do is kill the enemy."-Maj. Douglas Zembiec

 I am five three and female and I found myself surrounded by four guys twice my size with one of them yelling obscenities and the other three trying to shout over him to make their less obscene arguements. ...Whether or not I think "all cops are bastards" is good strategy or good sentiment, I expect people who are employed to keep the peace to be more skilled and show more courage than an amateur night watch. Are you implying it was the cops doing the cursing? cw Weakness is provocative.
"One of the most noble things you can do is kill the enemy."-Maj. Douglas Zembiec

No

She can explain herself, but her point seems to be if the occupy folks can diffuse a potentially violent situation by talking then the cops should be able to as well.   

Help me out here. If you are implying it was the cops:  "yelling obscenities and the other three trying to shout over him to make their less obscene arguements. " ...then this is a real problem. Do you have video? All the other citizens upset at the use of scary tactics and scary guns should be focusing on this.Do you have Any Iphone vid?This should not stand Maria. I am a screaming conservative and a proponent of the Law and I will carry you on my shoulders to the next hand wringing meeting if you have video of Cops behaving as you have discribed and we can rail together on THIS behavior.Chris Weaver    Weakness is provocative.
"One of the most noble things you can do is kill the enemy."-Maj. Douglas Zembiec

The most beautiful sound I ever heard: Maria, Maria, Maria, Maria . . . All the beautiful sounds of the world in a single word . . Maria, Maria, Maria, Maria . . . Maria! tell me have video....  ;0   Weakness is provocative.
"One of the most noble things you can do is kill the enemy."-Maj. Douglas Zembiec

 

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