Round two!

Good evening. At this time the boa is considering two well-qulaified people. I want to highlight what I think I would bring. (This is Lydia.) I recognize Dan is well-qualified, the special skillset I would bring.

It was mentioned that Dan has 20 yrs experience. I have 18 years experience, having worked with city of Durham, including volunteer boards. When I worked for Durham I was administrator in ___ department, I worked with staff, budgeting, parks and recs, maintenance, property care. In that position I was able to see the inner workings of municipal government day to day.

Then I went to law school and missed municipal govt! Got involved in more committees then, including open space and trails commission in Durham, meets monthly, joint city county board. Two meetings montly for 8 years. As a member of that board - with Wayne Cash and other eco folks -- it was great to be with other environmental protection people. I was vice chair for many years. I would be asked to be chair. I was also on NC assoc. of women's attorneys, a 6 year gauntlet.

Trails: important projects included greenway master plan. IN doing that we had to meet with neighborhood groups, with various citizens to tell them why we wanted to put a trail in their backyard. In the mud, talk to people with mopeds. Talked to lots of people.

Also gave a lot of input to land use policy (still in Durham). This opened my eyes to different planning considerations I would not have known about before. We worked with various environmental groups. Eno River Assoc, Triangel Land Conservancy.

Joal mentioned my service with NC assoc. of women attorneys, 600+ members, just ended as president.

Lydia: I was a consensus builder, team player.

About being a lesbian: the BOA and I agree that that should not matter but what does matter is that in many communities, I could not say that, but here, I can say it and it doesn't matter, and we move on. Choosing a gay candidate would underscore Carrboro's commitment to diversity.

LIved in Triangle for 20 years, I have stayed informed about Orange County politics.

My priorities:
Financial picture
Connectivity, greenways, trails

If Dan loves Carrboro so much, why did he just move here??? Perhaps they're both going to be exposed for essentially never living in Carrboro for any real length of time... vewy intewesting... wish I could text message the board right now but I'll just have to channel them... David Beck - 11 year resident... :). Maybe the longest tenure of any candidate. Where's my tie...

she's talking about her long history on the greenways commission - vice-chair but never chair because of the load...she's talking about negotiating with neighborhoods on trails - explaining to folks about why a trail would be going through their backyard - interacting with interest groups from walkers to bikers to horseriders...

She's worked bringing together private groups like Eno, Sierra Club, etc. to meet environmental goals in Durham

During her term of leadership she was a consensus builder...

Speaking about whether her les biansim is important - she likes the comfort of saying that in Carrboro but that it's not important for the BOAs decision...

She's talking about how she's kept a pulse on Orange county and how she's studied the recent history of Carrboro on finance, etc. to get in touch with what's going on...

Both speakers did well for being put on the spot....

Dan highlighted his Carrboro related successes and long history of success otherwise in the community...

Lydia highlighted her experience in all levels of govt. and civic orgs. over many years...

Mark asked if Lydia and Dan were off the ballot who would be up...

Jacquie jumps in and says "I would chose the person I voted for during the election" "I actually voted for more than myself"
David Marshall would be her choice

Mark: what do we do now?

Jacquie: Dan's statement reaffirmed my commitment to him b/c he's committed to Carrboro. But without Dan on the ballot, she'd vote for David Marshall. He's smart, a minority, a single dad, lots of experience, a veteran. He's congenial. He's built bridges and needs to learn how to campaign better! (Jacquie also said she voted for herself, Randee, David in Nov.) She'd rather vote for Dan, David is her next choice.

WillR- David M. is a strong choice - smart, quick to learn, a big heart, a real American patriot - he'd do an excellent job

Alex said he'd revert back to Katrina

BTW - I missed J.'s comment that David was a lousy campaigner back excellent candidate "he should be running for Senate"

David Marshall CHARGE!!!! Where's HIS tie!!!

Alex: my default is, after conversation that went around the table, I hope I'm not presuming anything Mark, but I think I agree with your logic. If we eliminate these two, I default back to my original position, Katrina, for all the reasons I outlined originally. This is two year appointment, person will have to face re-election to stay on BOA. I don't want to belabor this what I already said.

John: I can't believe we're still here for this. Certainly as much as I respect these two candidates--I go to church with Lydia--what we are learning is that they are polarizing candidates which is not healthy for this BOA. I like Jacquie's idea, I could support David, but also trying to think of who else... David Beck would be somebody who would be less polarizing to this board. Good guy, very nice, brings many assets.

John H. - I like Jacquie's idea - I like David - I'm trying to think who else - he's not black, he's not hispanic, he's not gay but he's an excellent policy maker - a personal friend - David Beck

I like the idea of David M. to cultivate new leadership...

John: Likes David Marshall, idea of cultivating new leaders. Many people don't have opportunity to run. But David Beck is his next choice.

Mark: I'm still trying to decide.

I GOT A VOTE??? Someone just called! CRAZY!!!

Mark C. - "it's another tough choice"

Is James Carnahan totally out of the running?

Or maybe he's a stealth candidate who'll go in the sixth round . . .

Jacquie - David M.
John H. - David B. - respects David M.
Mark C. - respects David M. - difficult to look down ballot - respects David B. professional work most of any of the applicants...

Mark C. - David M.

Mark: It's another tough choice. I would say that there are a bunch of different people on the list of 10 that I could work with, that I could live with. But I'm torn in the following respect: on the one hand, I have a lot of respect and admiration for David Marshall b/c of lots of things I and others have said before. But I have a hard time getting past looking down the ballot past the 4th place person (ie Katrina). I've got a lot of respect for David Beck. I think I mentioned last night he's probably the person whose work I admire most. (I think he said professional work.)

(mark is thinking)

Some people on this board have some strong feelings about David Beck. (meaning negative feelings I guess). I would get over it and support David Marshall.

Joal: Lydia is still best (Mark says we haven't given up on the first two). She's going to name two. David ___ experience of living in Carrboro (which David?), his personal interest would be good for the board.

This is excruciatingly painful. Yikes.

Joal: Likes David's thinking process. Also doesn't want to overlook James b/c he has given so much to Carrboro via the planning board, the village project, he would really work hard for Carrboro. He wants Carrboro to remain affordable.

This is a straw vote - a sense of the committee..

Jacquie - David M.
John H. - David B.
Mark C. - David M.
Joal - David B. because of personal experience, works hard, lived here for awhile, will tell you what he thinks --- the other person that shouldn't get short shrift even though others on the BOA might think differently but because of his charitable work/work with the govt. - James C. (finally a nod James)

Joal said David Beck. But he wore a Duke shirt? (David, that is very bad!)

This is a straw vote - a sense of the committee..

Jacquie - David M.
John H. - David B.
Mark C. - David M.
Joal - David B. or James C.

Note: so far no second choices from the annexed zone...

Randee doesn't want this to be a consulation prize...

Randee switched to Dan

Oops, David Marshall wore a Duke shirt. I did see that. Hated it myself.

Randee: I don't want anyone in Carrboro to feel that a boa member was a consolation prize. I am very concerned that when we close this meeting tonight, there is a wholeness, a sense of community. I am willing to go back to the original position to the original applicants, Lydia my preference, but I'll switch my vote to Dan if that will bring wholeness.

OK. Official vote coming up....

Randee wants the person selected to be the 1st choice...

I'm TAR HEEL TRUE BLUE AND MY DAD's A WFU PROF!!! I'm golden with Joal on that count

Randee's commitment to Carrboro means she is supporting Dan.

They're voting in round 8. Sounds like it's going to Dan.

Finis - Dan is up for swearing in....

Okay, time to swear Dan in. Congratulations Dan!

Jacquie says every vote after this will be easier after this for Randee.

Randee is now a hardened member of the ruling elite - a very tough question...

Now, who would be Alex's 2nd choice?

Dan swears and affirms ... to maintain the constitution.

Phew, just in time for Lost.

Lydia has shown grace under pressure - I hope she considers running in the next election...

Fantastic!

Great job all . . . especially to Randee. I don't know her at all, but I admire her strength of character and willingness not to let the BOA settle for a consolation candidate.

And congratulations to Dan. This will be good for Carrboro, good for Dan, and probably even good for Chapel Hill!

Ain't democracy amazing!

wow. easy come easy go. Randee cries uncle first.

Congrats to Dan! Gonna be crazy election in 2 years I guarantee that.

Awe Jacquie so sweet.

Yo Protzman - I ain't no consolation candidate. And neither is David Marshall or a lot of others. But congrats to Dan, that's the main thing at this moment. CRAZYYYYY!!!!!

Didn't mean anything negative . . . and sorry for the poor choice of wording.

That'll teach me.

No problem.