Here's an update that I just got from the town on the Leadership Advisory Committee's first meeting this Thursday. Contrary to what you may have read in the paper, I am not a member of this committee. And now that it's going to be broadcast live, I don't even have to drive down to The Friday Center to stay in the loop.
I don't do this often, but here's UNC's press release in it's entirety:
New Carolina North Leadership Advisory Committee to meet March 2
CHAPEL HILL – A new Leadership Advisory Committee for Carolina North will meet for the first time Thursday (March 2) at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
The meeting will be held at 5 p.m. in the Redbud Room – a change from the previously announced Dogwood Room – of the William and Ida Friday Continuing Education Center.
Ken Broun, Henry Brandis professor of law at UNC and former Chapel Hill mayor, chairs the advisory committee, which includes representatives from the towns of Chapel Hill and Carrboro, the Chapel Hill-Carrboro Chamber of Commerce, Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools, Orange County, EmPOWERment, the State Department of Transportation, the governor's office, and the university. Chancellor James Moeser will formally charge the committee on Thursday.
The committee's purpose is to get community input on Carolina North from as broad a range of interests as possible. The committee is being asked to develop principles that will guide the university in preparing plans for submission to the local governing bodies as part of the regulatory process.
Moeser asked Broun to lead the committee in guiding planning for Carolina North, the subject of a draft conceptual plan developed previously for the 900-plus-acre tract of UNC-owned property. The committee will study Carolina North issues – such as transportation, fiscal equity and environmental – over the next year, with a final report going to the chancellor.
The committee's meetings will be public. Community members are welcome to attend Thursday's meeting, but there are no agenda plans for public comment at that session, expected to focus on organizational issues. Future sessions are expected to include opportunities for such community participation.
In addition, Thursday's meeting is scheduled to be broadcast live on Time-Warner Cable in Chapel Hill on Channel 4, the university access channel.
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Related Web links: http://research.unc.edu/cn/, http://www.unc.edu/community/
Contact: Mike McFarland (919) 962-8593, mike_mcfarland@unc.edu
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Comments
Will those of us who get
Will those of us who get Time Warner from the Carrboro franchise be able to receive this broadcast? (channel 18, government access)
I knew there was a reason
I knew there was a reason beyond college basketball that paying for DVR would be helpful. :)
Ruby,Why did you decide not
Ruby,Why did you decide not to be on the committee?
I didn't make the decision,
I didn't make the decision, although I was releived to hear it. I called the Mayor who told me he wanted someone else to represent the Planning Board.
Don't believe everything you read in the paper, I guess. ;-)
Terri, it's not on government access (that's 18 in Chapel Hill as well).
Ruby, That was my fault on
Ruby, That was my fault on your name running as one of the appointments on the committee. The reporter found that information on the commissioners' agenda when they made their own appointments, and it failed to cross my mind that the council hadn't officially approved those appointments yet. We did run a correction and had the correct names in today's paper.
http://www.dailytarheel.com/media/paper885/news/2006/02/28/City/MixedUse...
Sorry for the trouble,
Brianna.
Brianna, it's not your fault
Brianna, it's not your fault the Mayor said it to the papers weeks ago and never contradicted it. We may just have to re-consider whether he's a credible source. ;-)
By the way, I tried to watch cable channel 4 last night and it was pretty awful. I'm not sure if broadcasting over static and fuzzy noise really counts as public access to the proceedings...
Maybe Ruby is referring to
Maybe Ruby is referring to the February 16th story in the CHH by Rob Shapard where he writes, "Foy plans to talk to Ruby Sinreich, the chairwoman of the Planning Board, and Julie McClintock, the chairwoman of the Horace Williams group, to see if they were willing to be the ones who serve on the new committee."
Just to follow up on Terri's
Just to follow up on Terri's question about the TV coverage. The university access channel will be the only live broadcast, but we are working on airing it at other times on other channels. I'll post the dates and times when everything is finalized.
Linda Convissor
I'm watching thise meeting
I'm watching thise meeting now. At least the visual feedback makes it more interesting...
Ken Broun suggested changing the regular meeting time to 4 pm.
Julie McClintock suggested adding an additional ground rule: "share all relevant information."
The Chancellor isn't there
The Chancellor isn't there yet, so they are moving on to the Draft Protocols, which were drafted with help from the Dispute Settlement Center's Andy Sachs.
FYI, here are Broun's
FYI, here are Broun's proposed protocols:
The Chancellor has showed up
The Chancellor has showed up and is sitting next to Ken Broun. He is planning to leave soon for another event.
BTW, Carrboro Mayor Chilton is sitting on the other side of Broun.
Chancellor Moeser is reading from prepared remarks... pleased to see there's an audience and recognizes the community's "deep interest" in this issue. He hopes to engage the community in CN planning. "Some have questioned the need for CN." His answer: "we are running out of room on the main campus."
Is it just my cable or are
Is it just my cable or are other people receiving poor video and distorted audio?
The Chancellor continues...
The Chancellor continues... "It's not just more space." A new concept.
Important to establish a vision. "I expect you to address the issues the community wants us to address: fiscal equity, housing, transportation, and the environment"
"I'm reminded of the planning for Polk Place." It was planned in the 1920's and contruction stretched all the way to today (science building is now filling in the last corner of Polk Place - that should have been the Black Cultural Center!)
This committee will help inform their submissions of plans to the towns of Chapel Hill and Carrboro. He wants to honor the previous planning efforts, those will an important contribution to the Broun Cmte's work.
Horace Williams Airport will "remain open until site work begins." Then AHEC moves to RDU.
"CN should be a model sustainable community." "CN presents a unique opportunity to be a national leader in sustainability." I think we will need to elaborate on what "sustainable" means in this context.
Although this "is administratively a University committee, we will not be determining your processes." He closes by thanking the committee and taking some questions.
It's not you, Marc. The
It's not you, Marc. The audio and video are a mess.
Doug Crawford-Brown is
Doug Crawford-Brown is asking how they will determine whether the future plan is consistent with the principles this committee will establish. Chancellor: "I'm not preparted to answer that question because I haven't thought about it.
Dan Coleman is sitting on
Dan Coleman is sitting on the other side of the Chancellor and has asked questions about the old AyersSaint Gross Plan and the airport closure. These are covering old ground.
Bill Strom followed-up also about the airport. It appears that they haven't talked much with RDU about moving the AHEC program there.
The Chancellor would liek us to assume that the airport is closed and is not an issue. Now he's leaving.
Now back to the draft
Now back to the draft protocols. OMG, they are going through them one at a time. Zzzzzz.
They have decided to not
They have decided to not have formal voting.
Now they are addressing the idea of 'alternates' which the towns introduced but UNC has not agreed to.
Questions about continuity
Questions about continuity and who the individuals represent.
I think the answer is that any alternates are members of the same body that the designee is representing, so it's not a problem. I think Bill Strom is saying the same thing now.
I could be outside right now
I could be outside right now where it is 76 degrees! Feh.
Now they are talking about
Now they are talking about 10. The facilitator may communicate privately and confidentially with any Committee member or group of members, either at his own initiation or at the initiation of a member or group.,
...which is kind of weird coming after 9. All Committee meetings and meetings of any formally constituted Committee task groups that might be created by the Committee are open to the public. Where feasible, all Committee meetings will be televised or video recorded and subsequently broadcast in a form available to the general public.
I think individuals should be able to talk to the chair confidentially, but when you start thinking of groups of members meeting, it seems to me that these contradict each other.
There is a lot of debate
There is a lot of debate about this point. Many of the local government representatives are saying that the work of the committee should happen in public meetings, not in secret.
The Chair is now suggesting
The Chair is now suggesting keeping #10, but striking the words "privately and confidentially." People generally seem to agree.
Can you tell what staff are
Can you tell what staff are there from each town? Managers? Planning? OWASA?
I don 't see any staff there
I don 't see any staff there besides UNC Vice Chancellor Tony Waldroup. This is a "vision thing," I don't think staff need to be there.
They are now discussing
They are now discussing taking public comment at regular meetings. They will take written comments as well as have a limited time period on the agenda for it.
Some other important issues
Some other important issues were raised but I was distracted.
Hopefully others who were there (or any other crazy people watching on Torture TV) will add their comments and impressions...
There were a number of Town
There were a number of Town of Chapel Hill staff members there (David Bonk, Cal Horton, Flo Miller)and Ed Kerwin from OWASA and a few other UNC staffers.
I thought Prof. Crawford-Brown made some really great points baout evaluation metrics and about the issue of who would determine whether the principles being developed were being adhered to.
The Chancellor did a good job o f outlining the work ahead, and Ken Broun demonstrated his commitment to being a neutral facilitator.
I also thought that Benradette Pellisier really shined on a number of points about public comment and participation. And I was glad to see and hear from George C in person for the first time. He did a good job of speaking up during the meeting (some folks might find this committee a bit intimidating, but George clearly did not).
It was a good meeting, although by its nature it was mostly about procedural issues. Hopefully we have most of that sort of thing out of the way now.
Check this
Check this out...
http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/region/2005/050623nc.html
Seems the Aviation Owners and Pilots Ass'n (AOPA) is still trying to keep Horace Williams Airport where it is and get UNC to build Carolina North around it. Think they can do it? IMHO, if they still have Rep. Black in their hip pocket like they have in the past, it's a distinct possibility.
What is it about Carolina
What is it about Carolina North that encourages back-sliding by UNC on their commitment to open discourse?
Folk kid that insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome. I wish thisold dog would learn a few new tricks.
To start with, what about following through on their commitment to an open and transparent process?
In the next day or two, the
In the next day or two, the video for the March 2, 2006 Leadership Advisory Committee for Carolina North meeting will be on the Carolina North website at http://cn.unc.edu. In the meantime, you may view a re-broadcast at 9 a.m. on Friday, March 17 and March 24 and 10 a.m. on Saturday, March 18 and Sunday, March 19 and Saturday March 25 and Sunday, March 26 on Chapel Hill Government Cable 18.
Thank you Ashlyn for the
Thank you Ashlyn for the heads up. Not all of us are Time-Warner serfs ;-)
Greetings, I would like to
Greetings, I would like to let readers know that the video of the March 2 meeting of the Leadership Advisory Committee for Carolina North is on the Carolina North website. Please find it at: http://research.unc.edu/cn/latest.php. Also, please know that it may take a few minutes to download.
Thank you,
Ashlyn Goldberg